Aug. 12, 2024

Thames Water gets Whacked with guest Feargal Sharkey

Today, we welcome back Feargal Sharkey, who visited Bubble Trouble last summer and dropped a (water) bomb on our privatized utilities. He’s fought the noble fight to expose Thames Water as profiteering polluters. Nine months later we have a massive credit bubble bursting, dumping toxic sewage in both debt laden shell companies and the real shit floating in our rivers and seas, while private equity owners took out £78bn of dividends since privatization kicked in. A warning: this conversation should make everyone angry, whether you draw a drink, go for a wild swim, or just watch your rising water bill - asking how this utility privatization bubble caused so much trouble. [Repeat from April 2024}


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This episode of Bubble Trouble features hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page, with return guest Fergal Sharkey, discussing the failing state of privatized water companies in England. Highlighted are the issues of excessive dividends extracted by private equity owners, the massive debt incurred by water companies, regulatory failures, and the environmental costs of pollution. Sharkie shares his firsthand experiences with water pollution and regulatory battles. The episode delves into the implications of privatization on public resources, the potential for nationalization, and the urgent need for systemic reform in water management amidst mounting public outrage and the looming crisis of water scarcity in London. The conversation encapsulates the complexities of privatization, the financial engineering driving the water industry's woes, and the palpable need for political and regulatory intervention.


00:00 Introduction

00:55 Introducing Repeat Guest Fergal Sharkey: A Deep Dive into Water Industry Woes

00:59 Part One

01:28 Fergal Sharkey's Journey: From Fly Fishing to Fighting Water Privatization

03:27 The Alarming State of England's Privatized Water Industry

06:47 Investigative Journalism and the Mainstream Media's Role

07:44 Exploring the Nationalization Debate and Its Complexities

11:06 Regulatory Failures and the Environmental Catastrophe

14:27 The Financial Quagmire: Debt, Dividends, and the Dire State of Infrastructure

22:00 Addressing the Bondholders: A Call for Accountability

27:12 Part Two

27:12 Looking Ahead: Solutions and the Future of Water Privatization

31:49 The Inefficiency of Global Success

32:11 System-Level Solutions for Water Management

33:14 The Looming Water Crisis in London

34:01 Government's Role in Managing the Water Industry

34:42 The Financial Challenge of Securing London's Water Supply

35:27 Reforming the Water Industry: A Shift in Earnings and Management

35:59 Empathy for the Regulator and the Need for Investment

41:10 Nationalizing the Water Companies: A Strategic Move

47:04 Political Pressure and Regulatory Challenges

49:42 Privatization's Failures and Future Directions

55:20 Concluding Thoughts and the Public's Role

57:34 Credits



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